Easy Plugins / Blocks / Layout changes?
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Hi
ok, ok - C5 is new on the open source market and therefor people are just starting to notice it. But I get the feeling, extending and changing layout etc. seems quite complicated.
If I am right, this seems to be a major draw back for people using C5, as in the beginning it's very easy, but suddenly, when you want more, you start being blocked.
I am using CMSmadeSimple (http://cmsmadesimple.org/)(CMSMS) and of course I compare.
CMSMS has a neat plugin system which allows easy extension. It's very likely that you can have a 1-click install with many of the extensions (for others you might need FTP as your server has some security restrictions for example).
Is this the same as blocks in C5?
For the sake (and spread) of C5 I would think people (without knowledge of PHP) need to be able to easily extend C5.
Something similar about the layout (yes, I am new to C5 and haven't tested so far yet): In CMSMS I can simply create a HTML/CSS file. Afterwards I can put placeholders in those places where I want content, navigation, forms etc. - So far I have the feeling, creating a complete new layout in C5 is more difficult.
Even though the importing a theme screencast is nice: How can I do this myself (where can I find the supported placeholders of C5)?
Just my 2 cents....
PS: So far C5 seems very attractive to me and I am already working on translating it to german in cooperation with Remo. But I am not sure if I will ditch CMSMS for C5 yet.
Anyways: Great work of you guys.
Olaf
ok, ok - C5 is new on the open source market and therefor people are just starting to notice it. But I get the feeling, extending and changing layout etc. seems quite complicated.
If I am right, this seems to be a major draw back for people using C5, as in the beginning it's very easy, but suddenly, when you want more, you start being blocked.
I am using CMSmadeSimple (http://cmsmadesimple.org/)(CMSMS) and of course I compare.
CMSMS has a neat plugin system which allows easy extension. It's very likely that you can have a 1-click install with many of the extensions (for others you might need FTP as your server has some security restrictions for example).
Is this the same as blocks in C5?
For the sake (and spread) of C5 I would think people (without knowledge of PHP) need to be able to easily extend C5.
Something similar about the layout (yes, I am new to C5 and haven't tested so far yet): In CMSMS I can simply create a HTML/CSS file. Afterwards I can put placeholders in those places where I want content, navigation, forms etc. - So far I have the feeling, creating a complete new layout in C5 is more difficult.
Even though the importing a theme screencast is nice: How can I do this myself (where can I find the supported placeholders of C5)?
Just my 2 cents....
PS: So far C5 seems very attractive to me and I am already working on translating it to german in cooperation with Remo. But I am not sure if I will ditch CMSMS for C5 yet.
Anyways: Great work of you guys.
Olaf
If you guys have read my rantings around the web you'll know I drop the metaphor of websites being like owning a home a lot.
Home owners and home builders are rarely the same people, even when they are - it's two unique rolls. A home builder wants to get the job done, done right, and move on to the next problem. A home owner needs to live there for years and wants to change stuff over time.
I think there's a lot of frustration from the "home builder" side of the equation in our industry. Agencies think their clients "mess up" the pretty sites they build over time. Agencies get frustrated that their clients hire someone cheaper to make changes to the "masterpiece" they built... etc.
My belief these days is that this duality is what makes the web work, and is a good thing. A home owner /should/ be able to do some basic home improvement without calling an expert, and they should know they can find a plumber at 6pm on a sunday if they really need it. Being the building material that lets these two groups work well together is our goal..
So short version, yes I agree with you. We have spent the summer getting c5 out on the market for home builders. We're now going to spend some time thinking about the home owner side of the equation.
any feature ideas for the less technically savvy amongst us will certainly be well received.
thx!
Home owners and home builders are rarely the same people, even when they are - it's two unique rolls. A home builder wants to get the job done, done right, and move on to the next problem. A home owner needs to live there for years and wants to change stuff over time.
I think there's a lot of frustration from the "home builder" side of the equation in our industry. Agencies think their clients "mess up" the pretty sites they build over time. Agencies get frustrated that their clients hire someone cheaper to make changes to the "masterpiece" they built... etc.
My belief these days is that this duality is what makes the web work, and is a good thing. A home owner /should/ be able to do some basic home improvement without calling an expert, and they should know they can find a plumber at 6pm on a sunday if they really need it. Being the building material that lets these two groups work well together is our goal..
So short version, yes I agree with you. We have spent the summer getting c5 out on the market for home builders. We're now going to spend some time thinking about the home owner side of the equation.
any feature ideas for the less technically savvy amongst us will certainly be well received.
thx!
I appreciate your message and it helps me to understand more on another point of view.
Have a nice day!
Have a nice day!
C5 team, keep an open mind for all that and as it was said, continue the great work; it can become the number one CMS choice on the planet. It depend of you. Don't miss the opportunity. Go for it.
Cheers!