Hosting C5

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I've had a really bad experience with MuraCMS for the last year. I've been through three different hosting companies and with all of them my server started crashing once a day on average. I currently have a VPS with Ayera and I'm literally using 8GB of RAM just to run 40 some odd Mura sites.

I'm definitely switching to Concrete5 but I'm wondering if anyone has any advice. Is Concrete5 lean enough to run on a shared hosting account with causing issues? Would running 50 plus sites with 15-20 pages each with maybe a photo gallery, an events calendar, and press release section fit on a VPS server without crashing it?

I'm a web design company with 50 or so clients adding about 3-4 a month and I'm just wondering what the best scenario would be. I love the idea of a shared hosting for all future clients because then I would never have to deal with server administration again.. but if C5 is lean enough to fit 75-100 clients on a VPS server then it would be more cost effective to do that.

There are also companies like Host Gator that I've seen people put 40-50 clients on a shared server.

Please let me know what you've all experienced. I'm looking forward to switching over to a better CMS.

Thanks..

Joel

getjoel
 
Mnkras replied on at Permalink Reply
Mnkras
C5 runs pretty well on a shared server, I actually have my site on a shared Hostgator server, its not really how many pages that could cause a server to over load, it would be the number of hits,

but c5 should run fine, on that server, and a website script should never cause a server to crash unless the server has some problems, or the script is really bad,
vasquito replied on at Permalink Reply
vasquito
Hi Joel

I run a couple of C5 sites on a hostgator share (along with other stuff). They're OK - but I wonder about the speed sometimes.

Stuart
getjoel replied on at Permalink Reply
getjoel
Well I have to say that right now I wish speed was my only problem. I have a VPS server that I'm spending $400 a month for and my server is crashing every single day. If I could set my clients up on a shared account and their website was slow.. at least I could tell them that they're only on a shared account and if they want to pay more than I could set them up on their own VPS or something. At least there are options with speed issues. With crashing.. There's pretty much no excuse.
frz replied on at Permalink Best Answer Reply
frz
I like liquidweb for dedicated servers. You could certainly price one
for under $400/month and it wouldn't be a VPS at all.

Add our cPanel add-on and you can provision concrete5 sites with a single click.

best wishes

Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
vasquito replied on at Permalink Reply
vasquito
> $400 . . . Ouch !

but I think Franz has given you the answer there Joel.

All the best

Stuart
getjoel replied on at Permalink Reply
getjoel
Thanks.. But do you think I need a dedicated server if I only have 40 or 50 sites?
frz replied on at Permalink Reply
frz
I would.

VPS is no good.

best wishes

Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
vasquito replied on at Permalink Reply
vasquito
Hi Joel

isn't it more a case of what your customers need / what you "owe" your customers in terms of quality of service ???

Swallow the pill - go for it :-) It'll solve your other problems too :-)

Best,

Stuart
getjoel replied on at Permalink Reply
getjoel
Hey Franz,

You mention a c panel add on but I don't see it anywhere in the marketplace. I'm looking for a way to replicate a website we've already customized for all of our new clients with one click.

Right now I'm with Bluehost and with every new client I have to set up a new site with simple scripts, upload my theme, install my theme, activate my theme, delete the database, install a new database, set up a new user, connect the user to the database, change the configuration file to match the new database, and then upload all of the misc images in the files directory.

If there's a way to do all that with the click of a button that would be the greatest thing ever! Please let me know if there's anything at all that can be done to save any of these steps.

Thank you.
Mnkras replied on at Permalink Reply
Mnkras
http://www.concrete5.org/services/msm-information/
frz replied on at Permalink Reply
frz
This might help:
http://www.concrete5.org/index.php?cID=167720...

You could make a package for your theme/add-on and then install that much easier after install. Not one click today however, but a package would be a wise next step.
getjoel replied on at Permalink Reply
getjoel
So from what I get out of that.. The answer is no.. right? It looks like I could pay $180 an have a new concrete5 site set up .. (which is the same thing I can do now with simple scripts.. it would just give my clients the ability to do it themselves).. but at the moment there is absolutely no way to bypass any of those steps I mentioned?
frz replied on at Permalink Reply
frz
the cpanel add-on lets you manage many sites when you have root access
to a server.
there's no instant way to do what you want today.
even if there was eventually (hint hint), you'd have to have your
stuff setup as a Package for install.

best wishes

Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz