after upgrade to 5.6 my side nav stack is not viewable to public

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So I recently upgraded to 5.6 and a side nav stack that was viewable to the public is no longer viewable. I can see it if I login as a admin. I checked all the permissions on the stack and they all seem correct or not changed but I know there was much change with the new upgrade. Please let me know where to change stack permissions, I mean I was able to get to a screen but View Block for Guest is already there. So not sure what else I need.

 
mhawke replied on at Permalink Reply
mhawke
Have you checked the permissions on the area the nav block is in?
alpdog14 replied on at Permalink Reply
Yes I have edited the page and went to that block area and checked permissions and it shows the Guest group which I imagine is allowing that block area to be viewed by Guests, correct?
mhawke replied on at Permalink Reply
mhawke
Have you tried making a change and then changing it back? Perhaps something in the permission 'chain' needs to be reset.
alpdog14 replied on at Permalink Reply
I have tried making changes to my Side Nav stack but it is still not showing up for Guests. It shows up when I am logged in as Admin. I have checked all the Permissions and everything is indicating Guest so I am still stuck on why guests cannot see the side navigation of a specific level. There used to be an option called "Setup on Child page" which I no longer see, I believe that is what I was using to control where the side nav showed up, where did that option go? Why was it removed? If I was using that and it is no longer available how do I get the same functionality. Not very professional of a group to remove a functionality that was being used.

I tried using the Schedule Guest Access and just set From to All Day and To to that last year possible and All Day but still no dice.

Also finding some of my pages keep coming up with a 500 Internal Server Error which never happened before the upgrade, I found this site:http://andrewembler.com/posts/improving-the-performance-of-zend-cac...
indicating that the newest Concrete5 release bogs down the server, is this true? why would they release a new version that would have such a load on the server?

Here is a copy of my site:http://s434399832.onlinehome.us/brainsportz/...
when i click on some of the left side nav, the pages come up but some pages return a 500 internal error, why???

Any advice would be appreciated.
mhawke replied on at Permalink Reply 1 Attachment
mhawke
I know this can be frustrating.

First, the 'Setup on Child Pages' is still in the same place it's always been. Go to 'Dashboard->Page Types'. Click the 'Defaults' button for the page type with the troublesome side nav. Click on your side nav and set the permissions on the area and the block. Click on the block again and choose 'Setup on Child Pages'. Then go back to your page on the website and make sure the permission on the side nav are actually using the page type defaults you just set up.

Second, the post by Andrew regarding speeding up C5 was posted in March 2010 and certainly does not refer to the current version. Version 5.6 is much lighter on server processing than previous versions however it may need a bit more memory. The issue your site appears to have at the moment is not enough memory assigned to it.

Try this:

Download the attached file. Rename it to 'phpinfo.php' and upload it to the root of your site.

Go to "http://s434399832.onlinehome.us/brainsportz/phpinfo.php" and see what it says for "memory_limit".

While you're looking at that giant list of output, check for 'Loaded Configuration File'. That will tell you where the php.ini file is that your site is using. If the php.ini in use is in your root then open it and change the 'memory_limit' to 128. If the php.ini in use is not in your root, you can try overriding it by creating a new file in your root called 'php.ini' containing just this line:

memory_limit=128


After changing the memory limit, check your site to see if the errors go away. If the errors are gone, you need to contact your host and ask them to increase the memory to 128M.

IMPORTANT: After your testing, rename your php.ini so your site doesn't use it routinely because that single line is probably not the best overall configuration for your site.
MrGrowBizz replied on at Permalink Reply
MrGrowBizz
I am having issues with stack permissions as well. While I have gotten to work after redoing Guest and Registered Users multiple times, I have yet to get viewing access by reverting to page permissions.
alpdog14 replied on at Permalink Reply
Right now when I try to go to one of my pages all I get is a 500 internal server error which never happened before i did the upgrade, unacceptable upgrade to cause this much issues.

I have two different hosting companies right now and I duplicated the file/db and even when I go to that test directory of another server I get a Fatal Error: Out of Memory, why is that two hosting companies will not work with this upgrade, unacceptable upgrade.
mhawke replied on at Permalink Reply
mhawke
I know it must be very frustrating for you but I'm sure the vast majority of sites have updated fine. Only my test site that has about 30 experimental modifications to it had some trouble which I fully expected.

Did you check out the PHP 'memory_limit' setting yet? It's a very simple thing to get your host to increase the memory. This happens all the time with technology. My first hard drive was 250M and now my computer has 6G of RAM. Bumping up against memory limits in a shared hosting situation is very common.

If both of your hosts have the same memory limit then it stands to reason that your site will suffer the same problems on both servers.

Does you 500 server error message contain any more detail?
alpdog14 replied on at Permalink Reply
Honestly I do not know what it is, called godaddy they say its the CMS that is installed. I tried copying the DB, delete all tables, the reimport the DB but that did not do it. I tried a fresh install of 5.6 and then upload that DB to the fresh install, again did not do anything. I did however did do a fresh install and did a brand new DB setup with new tables, I then removed those blank DB tables and imported the DB copy and that seemed to work but it is sitting on my 1and1 hosting, not godaddy so I am just going to transfer the domain.

I have another question though, when I go to the homepage of my 1and1 site it shows a login page:http://s434399832.onlinehome.us/brainsportz/...

If I login with admin, the real homepage comes up, how do I get my homepage to load the real homepage and not the login page?
alpdog14 replied on at Permalink Reply
Nevermind after logging in I was able to set the permissions to allow guests to view the page. All works now. Another question, my super user admin is not working, I set up an admin2 that has administrative access. How do I recover my super user admin credentials?
mhawke replied on at Permalink Reply 4 Attachments
mhawke
I had my first C5 site with GoDaddy but I gave up on them. My site was sooo slow and they were unwilling to help. All they wanted to do was sell me extra features I didn't need. What I needed was for them to speed up my website but that's not how they make a profit. I moved the exact same site to a new host and it's lightning fast.

Before you go to the trouble of transferring your domain to 1and1, you might want to test whether 1and1 is up to the task. I use a testing site that analyses my website and also tries to measure how much other load is on the server in addition to my website. It's called:

http://www.unshit.com (that's the real name of it!)

When I run your current site through it, it reports a very slow server. At the very bottom of the report, it tells you how fast your server is responding to requests. It states that any result under 5 indicates that your server is overloaded. The result for your server was .34 so I'd say you still need to find a better host. I also ran your website through a test at Pingdom.com and it reports that it took 11 seconds before the server began sending content. This is a very long 'First Byte' time indicating a slow server. Over 90% of the rendering time for your page was spent either trying to connect to your server or waiting for the server to send content. Once it started sending, the site rendered in 3 seconds. All this is telling me that the bottleneck is not C5, it's the server. You will not be happy running a C5 site on a slow server. I have attached some screenshots of these tests but you can run them yourself.

As for your Super User issue. You can use the attached file to reset your superuser password to 'password'. The way to use it is to:

1) Download the attached file called 'site_post.txt'
2) Rename it to site-post.php.
3) Upload it to your root/config folder
4) Visit your site.
5) Immediately delete 'site_post.php' from your server.

If you do these steps, your admin password will be reset to the word 'password'. Log in using 'admin' and 'password' and immediately visit your profile and change the password.

Hope this helps.
alpdog14 replied on at Permalink Reply
Hi mhawke, thanks for everything you have written, I do not have enough funds to sign up for another hosting service, so 1and1 will have to suffice compared to godaddy. also thanks for all the ways to optimize my website, this will have to be step two after I get my site back up and functioning normally.

thanks for the reset of the admin password, totally worked
alpdog14 replied on at Permalink Reply
Hi mhawke, I am going to ask your assistance even further if I can, so I got my site back, running on 1and1 but I am still having a Side nav not showing up for Guests, it shows up when I log in as an Admin:

http://s434399832.onlinehome.us/brainsportz/index.php/where-to-play...

This page above should have a side nav of the child pages underneath it, basically the days of the weeks

This stack only shows up for Admin, no other group can see this Side Nav stack, why would that be? I checked the permissions of the stack.

I would like to share my test username that is an admin so you can go into my site and assist me, please send me a PM and I will send the login credentials.
mhawke replied on at Permalink Reply 1 Attachment
mhawke
I see a side nav with Saturday listed (see attached screenshot). Is that the side nav that you're talking about or is there another one somewhere.
enlil replied on at Permalink Reply
enlil
I just ran into the same problem with stacks not showing up for guests. I had to go into those stacks that refused to display and "approve changes" in order for them to display. Hope this helps ;)
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