Where's the installation video for Concrete5?
Even something on youtube would be great. Could someone kindly post the link to the video that was created before, but is difficult to find?
But is this note:http://www.concrete5.org/help/building_with_concrete5/installation/... not enough?
I can't find it. It was really useful. These forums and educational information is just really hard to find on this site. I wish things were more clear, and easier to navigate, efficient and simple, like their software. However, it's really a mess.
unfortunately it's a bit specific for cpanel and therefore has a few parts that you have to ignore since cpanel is not that widely used..
looks much easier to me but it's still about cpanel. you have to skip a few things there too but it's a bit easier to follow than the video.. imho..
There's an awful lot of content we need to organize here, and while I'll be the first to admit it'd be great if we had mounds more documentation and how-tos, I really don't believe our site is a "mess."
Compared to other software sites I think we've managed to find a rather elegant architecture for it to fall into.. Of course, I'm open for constructive criticism, what should we move where?
PS: I think we've also been more than clear that it's not really in the core team's interest to spend their time helping folks install concrete5 on every different server config under the sun, so if you're feeling neglected in here - that's probably not shocking.
I wish you we're having an easier time.
With regards to the site, I really think there should be something like a youtube channel with video tutorials. Without more focus on educating people, especially CMS noobs, the base will have a hard time growing. Maybe it's an opportunity for 3rd party people. However, some base tutorials/hand holding is really missing. At the very least, there should be a step by step video tutorial on how to install through CPanel etc and how to do a proper update of the software to a newer version.
With regards to the site layout, I just find it's hard to find information, it's narrow and not a lot of threads on one page. The links at the bottom are a jumble. However, this is personal preference.
I honestly didn't want to poo poo in this thread. I really appreciate the responses for help that I've gotten. I so want to use Concrete5, as I see the potential and like a lot of what I see, however, it's not the easiest thing to get started with and moving forward, there just doesn't seem like there's a wealth of information available.
Someone needs to make something for Lynda.com etc. Get the word out!
of course, it's important to point out that people also complain that we shouldn't be using screencasts, they're bandwidth intensive and hard to translate...
I think learning is one of those things where there are so many different ways to do it, you often end up sacrificing one method to fill out another. What I really would like to avoid is just LOTS of content on a page.. I personally find it difficult to pay attention to anything when I'm being given too much. That's why I rather liked the "using vs building" split we embrace in the architecture of this site. I recognize that sometimes a article or video could appear in both, but i think it fundamentally makes sense.
Soon as we get a minute, Andy and I will work on more videos.