Some general questions about the Marketplace
I am thinking about creating and selling some themes and addons via the Concrete5 marketplace and I have some questions :)
First off, is anybody on this forum making a non trivial amount of money selling themes/addons? There are no sales statistics, just the possiblity to order items by popularity.
If someone has this experience, how does it compare to CodeCanyon/ThemeForest? The best selling addon on CodeCanyon sold 40x and the bestselling theme on ThemeForest sold 360x; these are all for C5.6. Those marketplaces have, of course, huge drawbacks if the sales have a very low volume.
What are the options to transfer money from the marketplace? Only PayPal?
Thanks for reading and maybe answering some questions.
Most non-trivial marketplace addons are spin offs from real customer projects. A customer required it and it was developed specifically for the customer. The developer then put the extra work in to get it into the marketplace. The original customer pays for the development, but gets the benefit of support costs being covered by marketplace sales.
Other reasons to release stuff into the marketplace:
- simply because its a community thing to do.
- a developer created it for their own convenience and thought others might find it helpful.
- a developer has a bit of free time between customer projects.
- as a marketing exercise for development services.
- to enable provision of further development services.
- its a school project or corporate training program.
- a third party supplier wants to provide integration of c5 with their service.
But if you are thinking 'marketplace sales could be a nice little business', you will be sorely disappointed.
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What could be the reason for this despite the hasty release of 5.7? Too little end users that create their sites themselves and have a need for pre coded addons that provide a certain functionality? I could think of some useful addons for this demographic, but of course I would be interested to earn some money also, if that is morally acceptable ;)
Might be a chicken and egg situation, no end users, no addons for end users.
(I could start a a WP comparison here, but I won't)
The model we're doing at Razor Commerce is similar to WooCommerce in WP, our core product will always be free. We hope to have significant adoption, and develop the market for premium ecommerce themes and useful extensions.
Yes, 5.7 is the first version we've ever released that wasn't backwards compatible. Certainly a painful step, but one we needed to make and don't plan on doing so again any time in the foreseeable future. There certainly was a slump in marketplace sales as we did that, understandably as people have wondered which version to use or just to wait.
It also appears that some of our one click installer friends haven't got 5.7 installing correctly. This is obviously a huge issue which we're working on solving with 5.7.4's upcoming release.
All of that being said, gross sales of some of the themes in the 5.7 marketplace since we launched it are:
While you're not going to retire to a desert island on 6k, but I think that's a pretty decent return over what amounts to 4 months (we launched late fall, most of these came on around the holidays when times are slow).
Probably the best and simplest reason I can give you to build themes for 5.7 is the exact reason you're looking at WP. Put something good looking in there that has great sample content - you're a big fish in a small pond that's growing. The total marketplace sales grew 12% last month alone.
That would be even greater to work up some official stats say, on the download link, the number of sites connected etc…
and even better, could you have those figures update in real time ;) ?
I don't think we need to add any more operations infrastructure tasks to our overflowing plate, but I'll work up a blog post with some details so people aren't in the dark.
To answer your question : If direct profit is your only motivation, developing an add-on for Concrete5.7 is not such a good idea BUT : It might start to pay off in the future and contributing to the community by creating such an addon is also a good reason to do so. This way you invest in yourself and Concrete5. Depending on what type of addon you are developing, the amount of time required to develop is reasonable so you're not risking a lot.