We are speaking to many disparate audiences with one site at concrete5.org. Adding the enterprise.concrete5.com site has been very helpful, and was a no brainer we should have done a long time ago. Enterprise CMS solutions are licensed in the low-mid 6 figure range, so it just doesnt make sense to put any of the tools were working on for large clients into our marketplace at concrete5.org. Same goes with the support SLAs that are important.
A similar problem exists for consumers vs designers & developers at concrete5.org. If Im a small business comparing concrete5 to the DIY web builder market it just doesnt make as much sense at concrete5.org as it could. Sure theres an instant setup link buried at the top of the page, but that is just a demo that we cant easily upsell into a hosting account.
To clear it all up:
- Redesign concrete5.org to feel more like a developer/designer community (bit cleaner design with a tad less whimsy). Improve the features around finding a community member and posting a job, but keep all that free. Focus more on documentation, including general cleanup and improved API documentation.
- Launch concrete5.com to be one click install of concrete5 for free at Yoursite.concrete5.com. Much like wordpress, offer free hosting on a cloud server with ads for ever. Want to lose the ads? Click a built in promo to one of our hosting customers and have your site packed up and moved automatically (see business changes).
- Make concrete5.org, .com, and the app itself work with Facebook and Twitter authentication. Also make 1-click installs at concrete5.com automatically connected to concrete5.org project pages without you having to do anything. Getting a site on concrete5.com would automatically make or use a user account on concrete5.org. Theres just far too many logins required for people to understand today. Under the hood we kind of need it to work that way, but theres no reason we cant take some of the pain out of setting things up for the majority of new folks.
- Were debating just making concrete5.org a new site. With the new Conversations model weve got some real issues with our forums here (which are a one off). Were also starting to think that some of the legacy content in this site is going to be irrelevant with 5.7. Cleaning house is always appealing, and building a new site we can test in a sane way sounds nice too. Theres certainly no perfect answer here, but were entertaining any option at this point.
My Account & Social Networking
With the introduction of the Grid, all default concrete5 installs basically have a social feed built right in. To pull that off right were going to bundle discussions and events right into concrete5 as well. Right now we sell add-ons for both, but these are just features we believe the majority of sites will benefit from and Im willing to trade the revenue for growth. Discussions will get re-architected into Conversations which will have their own flat (read: performance optimized) structure in the core.
Just like Files, Users and Pages, conversations will have their own permissions and be easily centrally managed from the dashboard. Conversations will be organized with Topics - which amount to tags with hierarchy. Topics can have permissions applied. The result is you will be able to make topic relationships like this:
A conversation could be posted to Vegans, Fruit, Apples, etc. A person could be subscribed to any or all of those topics, or might not have permissions to see Meat at all. Conversations will be joined to pages through topics and a page ID reference.
Members will also have Relationships. These are typed connections between people. We will have a few out of the box and as a developer you can make more. Think Twitter follows vs Facebook confirmed friends, etc. Community points will be built in. Member profiles and member search will be more flushed out and easy to use.
We started talking about this as The zine - a magazine made just for you but everyone pronounced it wine. I think the nod towards xeroxed zines from the 80s is appropriate. Take a windows 8 or flipboard style summary view, but give people enough control to curate their content. This should be a tool people want to tinker with.
We see using the grid layout for any number of UI challenges, so basically think of it as an alternate view layer for an improved page list block. We also want to make it so you can include 3rd party feeds in your grid. So you might include your company's facebook, twitter and youtube feeds in a community page, along with press releases youre posting to the site. Interacting with any of the tiles in the grid makes a page for it on your site so we can store whatever data is required. You should be able to post back to your grid, and have it auto-post to the same services it ingests content from. Add-ons could/should create tile layouts so they can be aggregated in this view. Grids can have automatic sorting, filtering and sizing logic - combined with curated tiles. Tiles can have conversations and events attached to them as free tools in the core.
We will use grids for the main landing page on the demo site, and for your My Account area as much as possible.
All of these are very loose creative direction:
More in the 5.7 plans...
Editing & Page Creation
This new text editor is cross browser compatible, makes clean HTML, is bootstrappy in its styling, and generally is totally awesome. Weve already integrated it with concrete5 so successfully that we can do text editing within the page instead of an overlay to our satisfaction.
This also works easily with the page in edit mode (skipping the click to put a specific block in edit mode), effectively giving us a middle edit state were going to use for other things later.
The only challenge were looking at here is what to do with legacy issues and TinyMCE. My own sense on this one is hey, you upgrade you lose old bad stuff and get sexy new stuff so if theres a strong argument for why concrete5 needs to support both editors, Id love to hear it.
As part of integrating redactor, weve been able to include a new snippits feature that amounts to Mail Merge in MSWord. You can pull in the current date, user name, page name, etc. Were architecting this in a flexible way so a developer might integrate with other data sources in handy ways.
Check out the video from a while ago...
Demoing editing a page on concrete5 always feels great, prospects just get it and quickly become clients. Demoing page creation is less awesome. Explaining to someone that your whole site is a tree and you have to goto the parent of where you want this page to be first is where they start to come back to earth and realize they need to pay attention. Composer starts to solve this problem a bit, but it also solves a completely different problem of making data entry screens for CRUD type problems. Adding more options rarely makes something less overwhelming. Were going to solve this problem by breaking it along more traditional lines:
1) What is composer today will mature into something that creates the scaffolding a developer needs to create a custom entry/edit UI in the dashboard. Use this for creating interfaces for inputting strongly typed content.
2) What is Add a Sub Page today will mature into something more geared for drafting as you go. You can add content from anywhere, you start writing (with auto-save) before you have to decide what it is youre making or where youre going to want to publish it. There will be mobile and browser toolbar versions of this Create tool.
New Add Block Interface
Adding a block will be as simple as dragging its icon from the Add Block toolbar into an area at the exact point you wish it to display.
The fact that sometimes page types exist for layout and sometimes as an object model is not great. Someone should be able to add a calendar event or a blog post, and also switch its form factor. Were going to introduce a new concept called Feature that we can use to quickly determine if a page contains certain types of data for programmatic purposes. This should let us organically push page types towards the layout solution and de-couple functionality from requiring specific page types more. Blocks and add-ons could mark pages as implementing these Features, meaning that youll never have to choose whether a page is a Calendar Event or a Product Detail page type.
Were currently rewriting Layouts completely. The next version of Layouts will honor permissions and permissions inheritance correctly, be better integrated nto the concrete5 editing system, work correctly with area-specific developer methods, integrate better with themes, and be a bit more aware of modern style guidelines. Yes you can lock layouts and reuse them today, but it feels like a last minute feature. We want to make it easier for you to create snap to points so a site owners layout falls on common alignment lines.
We currently have three image editing solutions in concrete5. The avatar picker, the image sizer from composer, and the edit image from file manager. Some of them are Flash (ick). All of them suck. Were rebuilding all of these to be served by one attractive well thought out extendable image editor that the community can add filters/plugins to.
A sneak peak into the goals and vision for the next major release of concrete5.....
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- December 12 - Developer Intro
- December 19 - Basic Blocks
- January 9 - Advanced Blocks
- January 16 - Single Pages