Does eCommerce for 5.7 have legs yet?

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I understand that the team is likely still putting a lot of love into stabilizing 5.7, but I was wondering if it's going to have a viable ecommerce addon in the near future? If so, how near?

MichaelG
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MrKDilkington replied on at Permalink Reply
MrKDilkington
I'm also interested in this.
juddc replied on at Permalink Reply
juddc
Ditto - Any info would be great.
Felicity replied on at Permalink Reply
Yes - this is the major obstacle towards using C5 for a client's project, currently.
kfog replied on at Permalink Reply
kfog
i agree, this is a mayor obstacle developing new sites in 5.7
i also would love to see the implementation of full power boostrap 3 columns like col-xs, col-md, col-lg, - not only col-sm. we consider this function as extremly powerful.
i guess we have to wait for 5.7.4?
we are patient, – this is a complex issue.
alanski replied on at Permalink Reply
alanski
I might widen this out to also include
- multiple site management
- translation facilities
- enterprise work flow
Shotster replied on at Permalink Reply
Shotster
Has anyone looked at Thelia?

http://thelia.net

I wonder how easy it might be to incorporate it into a C5 site.

-Steve
MrKDilkington replied on at Permalink Reply
MrKDilkington
I just had a look at Thelia. It looks interesting.
tsdonohue5 replied on at Permalink Reply
Thelia is new-ish and not a plugin. And smarty - eh..sucks, gets in the way. Less abstracted layers is more. Much recommend Opencart which can't be beat. But again OC is not a plugin either ...want a plugin / addon for small ecommerce.

Hopefully some news will come forward about migrating old version soon....
tsdonohue5 replied on at Permalink Reply
Really in need of a e-commerce plugin too. Was hoping there might be some hope soon to migrate the prior add-on to 5.7 ...it's from the core team and although they're busy...hope that this gets some high priority soon now that the last 4 months of updates to 5.7 have come along way and is basically stable to me now.
MichaelG replied on at Permalink Reply
MichaelG
I opened this in mid november, and have since had our team embark on building a package we could use. With a few tweaks it could be "marketplace ready". If there's interest or immediate need, you may want to PM or email me.
tsdonohue5 replied on at Permalink Reply
Thanks for note - just ping back here if / when might hit the marketplace. Would this be a new ecommerce plugin or converting one you've already had in the marketplace?

thx
MichaelG replied on at Permalink Reply
MichaelG
It's something new from scratch. That said, it's intentionally a little less powerful and flexible to be frank. But I suppose that could change, or it could grow if there's enough demand and nothing else to fill the void. We'll see.
tsdonohue5 replied on at Permalink Reply
I was hoping for really the existing C5 addon to be converted as it was the most robust of them all. I thought about what you're doing but as you know doing a cart is a big job...with all the features everyone demands...

which is why now I'm thinking if easier way to "plugin" or embed/spoof, etc. an open source solution like Opencart which I've used and just expose some calls via ajax or ...hmmmm something to think about. If can do this simply, can just use that in C5, WP (although woo-commerce is pretty darn good as a plugin) or any mvc framework project..... because I'm not convinced even if converted will ever be as robust as the other frameworks or woocommerce as a plugin...just because smaller team, etc....but C5 is still by far my favorite CMS for everything..except ecommerce. anyway ....

thanks
Shotster replied on at Permalink Reply
Shotster
> I'm thinking if easier way to "plugin" or embed/spoof, etc. an open
> source solution like Opencart...

OC is pretty simple to integrate into a C5 site "as is" - either as a subdomain (e.g. store.mysite.com) or subdirectory (e.g. mysite.com/store). However, I've opted not to use it at this time because:

* Its implementation of categories is lame.
* You have to maintain a separate theme for the OC store.
* The admin UI is...well...yucky.

Those could be addressed, I suppose, but I haven't had the time to devote to it.

-Steve
MichaelG replied on at Permalink Reply 5 Attachments
MichaelG
For what it's worth, here's some screenshots of what we've done. It does quite a bit, but there's also quite a bit that it doesn't do.

Again, if this is something you could use, PM or email me
tsdonohue5 replied on at Permalink Reply
very cool, will review , thanks
juddc replied on at Permalink Reply
juddc
Nice work. Looks like the core team has e-comm on the Roadmap -https://www.concrete5.org/about/roadmap/...
getsupport replied on at Permalink Reply
getsupport
Nice Roadmap:

Concrete5

A better demo/simple hosting solution here at concrete5.org.
Internationalization built into 5.7 and our Enterprise Internationalization working on top.
Import/Export tools for migration between 5.6 and 5.7, also Wordpress import.
Basic Calendar/Event page types built into the core.
eCommerce for 5.7.
Gathering, Conversations to fully replace Discussions in 5.7.
Activity Feed replacement for Newsflow.
Custom composer interfaces for complicated page types.
Inline image sizing/cropping in edit mode.
Intranet for 5.7.

Would be nice as this becomes standard core functionalities with Concrete5 v5.7
A la, Wordpress ecommerce Woocommerce. Blog Tools are standard of course in Wordpress
jshannon replied on at Permalink Reply
jshannon
I'm just excited that there's a roadmap!

I heard that roadmaps are only for huge software companies.
OKDnet replied on at Permalink Reply
OKDnet
Now I have an immediate need too!

When was this roadmap published? If I'm not mistaken, it's not recent. As such, without any input from the core team, we unfortunately we have no idea of a time frame. I need to decide very soon and am afraid I might be forced to choose 5.6
ConnellWF replied on at Permalink Reply
Where does the eCommerce 5.7 stand?

I didn't realize this change and I have built an entire site using 5.7, then I went to implement the eCommerce and realized it is not compatible. From what I can tell it has been "pending" for at least a year now?
MrKDilkington replied on at Permalink Reply
MrKDilkington
@ConnellWF

There is a free open source e-commerce package for concrete5 5.7 called Vivid Store. It is currently on version 3.0.1.

One of the Vivid Store contributors is community member Mesuva. Mesuva says it is ready for production sites and the code is in great shape. He is someone you can trust when they say something is ready or not.
https://www.concrete5.org/community/forums/5-7-discussion/video-of-v...
https://www.concrete5.org/marketplace/addons/store-ecommerce-from-vi...

Also, please post ideas, feedback, and bugs to the GitHub issues page. If you are a developer, please consider contributing to the project.
https://github.com/VividWeb/vivid_store...
mesuva replied on at Permalink Reply
mesuva
For clarity, I'd say that Vivid Store is feature-complete enough to be in production, and we're starting to use it to develop real sites (going live with one next week), but please keep in mind that it has been heavily worked on over the last few months.

I wouldn't recommend grabbing the latest development branch off of github unless you are happy to help resolve bugs and a fairly seasoned developer.

If you are not a developer, it's best to stick to the official 'stable' releases (i.e. through the marketplace). I'd suggest that a fairly substantial update release is just around the corner, perhaps when concrete5.7.5.3 is released. I'd suggest trying out 3.0.1, but if you can hold off a bit for the next release, you may find there are less issues overall.

The feature list and codebase of Vivid Store is seriously impressive, especially when it's a free/open add-in. I can't encourage enough community involvement with this project - testing, bug fixes and reports are all hugely beneficial. The codebase is really quite easy to work on too, so it's a good project to help with features. This shop system is not only very powerful, but it's very easy to customised and styles - it's as much an 'ecommerce toolkit' is it is a install-and-go package. When you combine the features it has with concrete5's core features like permissions, you have an incredibly powerful platform, one that I think it truly unique.

It's pretty much a complete shop system at this point, with the things left to development more 'nice to haves', rather than core features. If we had even just a few more developers put a handful of hours into it, this thread would be obsolete!

As a sidenote, if you need something _right now) that has been in 'production' status for quite some time now and is a bit more 'out-of-the-box', you can also check out my eCommerce with Snipcart add-on. /shamelessplug
ConnellWF replied on at Permalink Reply
Thank you
PineCreativeLabs replied on at Permalink Reply
PineCreativeLabs
What is the latest word on this? Is there going to be a core commerce package?
ramonleenders replied on at Permalink Reply
ramonleenders
Tune into the webinar tomorrow, that's a topic Franz will talk about. Read the Blog to know the details. Seems they are working on it or perhaps they have a release date? Who knows :D