Global Areas, tables with content editor, clipboard issues after publishing page, copying pages, adding multiple pages...

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This is my first time trying 5.7 and so far... not so good. I have since removed the test site and will be starting over fresh. The interface issues aside, those are a small learning curve, I am encountering some serious issues. I did a clean, no content install and then installed Fruitful as a starting point. I will split this up.

1. I encountered my first issue trying to insert a table in the content block using the editor. I was able to insert it fine, but I find no way to adjust cellspacing or cellpadding like in previous versions. I don't usually use tables like that, but needed to in the case of the logo image and text out to the side. I then added an additional column to try and add some spacing but was unable to delete it using the editor. Obviously removing the HTML directly worked, but I am going to eventually hand this over to a client and they won't know how to do that so it's a problem.

2. Clipboard: This may be an issue in conjunction with item #3 to follow, but I created an AutoNav block with the desired specs and saved it to the clipboard for later use. It saved fine, but it won't seem to save when I insert from the clipboard into a GlobalArea.

3. Global areas... I changed the left sidebar area into a GlobalArea and it updated to show that it was a Sitewide area as intended. However, when I drag the AutoNav from the clipboard over and then publish, it's no longer there. It shows up fine in edit mode and as intended, but disappears once published. So is this a GlobaArea issue, a clipboard issue, or a combination?

4. Adding multiple pages at once... is there any easy way to add multiple children to a particular parent page in one fell swoop? In previous versions I just used the Add Multiple Pages addon and it worked brilliantly. Is there a native way to accomplish this in 5.7?

5. Copying pages in Sitemap. In previous versions you could simply click, drag, and then copy a page. I can't seem to do that in 5.7. Is this by design? How can I easily copy a page. I have an 18 facility self storage website I am trying to create and would like to create a base facility page and easily replicate it to be a template/starting point and can't seem to find the mechanism to copy a page.

So far.. these basics are VERY frustrating. I am about to start over and give this another go, but will abandon if I can't figure it out.

barkingtuna
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MichaelG replied on at Permalink Reply
MichaelG
1. I understand you want to use tables, and I'm not sure what tools redactor offers for tables but it sounds like none. That said, for your use case /especially/ you wouldn't want to use a table (bad HTML practice) for layout sake. C5 does offer an awesome way of creating columns. Try that. It's much better than 5.6's layout tool, but along the same lines.

2. Not sure.

3. I've noticed a problem like this, but it existed in 5.6 and earlier as well. Global Areas don't like having the same name as regular areas. I remember in 5.6 if you replaced an Area with a Global Area of the same name, it was a coin flips guess at which one it would return. Try renaming the global area to something original. This may also resolve #2.

4. Nope. Not natively, nor do I think non-natively at the moment. Kind of a great idea for an add-on given how much adding 20-50 pages from the website genesis sucks.

5. I think you can still do that from the dashboard->sitemap. Just not from the add page/sitemap "panel". Otherwise, it functions the same exact way.
barkingtuna replied on at Permalink Reply
barkingtuna
Thanks Michael... I'll give it another go with your suggestions and reply back tomorrow. An "Add Multiple Pages" function, natively (better) or non-natively (great), would be AWESOME given the number of pages I will need to create just to begin this project. I know I'm not the only one with that particular need. I hope the ease of front-end use of previous versions is not lost in the long run with 5.7. I have been able to create some great sites for clients with, admittedly, limited development knowledge and limited database meddling. That is why I've been an ardent supporter of C5. I hope the C5 team doesn't forget about those of us on that side of the coin; those of us who help prove that anyone can create great websites with C5.
barkingtuna replied on at Permalink Reply
barkingtuna
Hey Michael... just remembered that you answered the question about adding multiple pages a while back. I'm working on a super cool project for the "Doolittle Raeders" of WWII and there were 75 of them and I'm looking for an easy way to create 75 similar profile type pages. What would it cost to co-develop this? I'm willing to throw some funds in.
MichaelG replied on at Permalink Reply
MichaelG
hmm - shoot me an email.
barkingtuna replied on at Permalink Reply
barkingtuna
Mesuva commented on a post in block requests and might have a solution...

http://www.concrete5.org/community/forums/block_requests/can-someon...
MrKDilkington replied on at Permalink Reply
MrKDilkington
In addition to what MichaelG said:

Right now, the Redactor table tools are very basic, but that will change once Redactor is updated.

Regarding copying pages, that can be done, but would be very inefficient for more than a few pages. A better solution would be to use page types.
https://www.concrete5.org/community/forums/5-7-discussion/clone-a-pa...
https://www.concrete5.org/documentation/using-concrete5-7/dashboard/...

I recommend spending some time going over the 5.7 Editor's Guide and the Developer's Guide. This will help get you up to speed with 5.7 and allow you to work more effectively.