Any thoughts on using the CKEditor instead of the current tinymce editor?

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bryanlewis replied on at Permalink Reply
There has been a lot of talk about using different editors with C5. I don't see C5 changing from Tiny MCE anytime soon (if at all). BUT, you can take another editor and make it a new block type and use it how you please.
jbx replied on at Permalink Reply
I must admit, I've only ever used tiny. Is there any advantage to using CK? What do you like about it??
philiph replied on at Permalink Reply
I'm absolutely no wysiwyg editor expert.. but after building two rather large websites with concrete the one thing that bugs the hell out of me is tinymce.. basically it's too easy to get the poor thing confused on what code to write.. for example say you write some text, choose bold as the header, but later realize it should be a heading style, so you go ahead and choose heading as the style, you then realize bold was still there in-between so you remove it..
more often than not those steps result in a really messy code not even consisting of a heading style but some inline css defining font size and stuff.. you get the point, a lot of html editing is the end result :)

I haven't really "worked" with ckeditor as I have absolutely no idea how I would go about changing the editor in concrete, but what I have seen is that the thing writes some pretty neat code and it's also fairly hard to get it confused on what code to write..
jbx replied on at Permalink Reply
Yeah, I agree, tinymce is pretty good, but I must admit, I'm forever in the HTML view tidying up code. Easy enough for me, but not really an option for most clients. I might look into CK and some others, see if any of them can do a better job...
frz replied on at Permalink Reply
I agree. TinyMCE is far from perfect, its the best we've found. In the last version of concrete cms we used FCK editor, which was even more quirky. In very early versions we had built a editor ourselves in flash.. that was a mistake.. etc..

only piece of real wisdom I have for anyone looking to integrate another editor - don't go deep with it. Notice how we have an extra toolbar above tinyMCE with the concrete5 specific link & image placement stuff? That's because we learned our lesson with fckEditor last time. If you try to integrate the links, images, and other bits inside the editor's UI where it already has some functionality, you'll fork the thing and never be able to keep up with important updates from the editor's project.
webjedi replied on at Permalink Reply
I have to throw in my 2 cents as a 17 year hand-coding professional.

I just finished updating and adding to a site that has FCKeditor already installed on the backend.

IMO the crap the FCKeditor produced as code makes me forewarn EVERYONE against using it.

It is table-based and adds a ton of horrible depreciated tags, bad nesting, and wont clean up after itself if you remove a paragraph or something.

It is pure junk and needs to be retired :)

Oh sorry that was more like my 5 cents worth sorry :)

AvanOsch replied on at Permalink Reply
I know this is an old post, but I'd like to revisit this question...
First, FCKEditor and CKEditor are 2 different things.

Reading some "CKEditor vs TinyMCE" articles, it seems a lot has changed after 4 years.
CKEditor has improved a lot, and seems to have some really handy features:
- Nice (better?) plugins
- Better documentation
- Better copy/paste support

Any thoughts?
JohntheFish replied on at Permalink Reply
There is a CK editor content block replacement in the marketplace.
AvanOsch replied on at Permalink Reply

I can't find it...
I tried searching before posting (CKEditor, CK Editor, Editor, wysiwyg....)

Could you point me in the right direction?
JohntheFish replied on at Permalink Reply
I just checked my records and it was in the prb, then looks like it atrophied pending a final comment about the marketplace page. It worked well and was ready for approval.

The developer was @noviomagus.

You could PM and see if he can send a copy.
AvanOsch replied on at Permalink Reply

I'll see if he can hook me up...
enlil replied on at Permalink Reply
I dont think it was ever approved John, although I still have a copy on my test site...