Is there a subscriptions payment method for concrete 5 ?
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Hi,
I'm trying to figure out a way to accept Paypal subscription payments with no manual process (not having to turn on and off a user to a group manually after a monthly payment)
I have tried the simple subscriptions add-on a few weeks ago and it locked me out of my site - owner is sick or something so he wasn't responding to any issues
But I noticed that during this time 2 other subscription services with Paypal have disappeared from the market place and wondering if there is a solution out there that I am missing
I have the eCommerce add-on and know I can add users to groups though it but there is no option to attach it to the subscription option in Paypal
-Thanks,
Cory
I'm trying to figure out a way to accept Paypal subscription payments with no manual process (not having to turn on and off a user to a group manually after a monthly payment)
I have tried the simple subscriptions add-on a few weeks ago and it locked me out of my site - owner is sick or something so he wasn't responding to any issues
But I noticed that during this time 2 other subscription services with Paypal have disappeared from the market place and wondering if there is a solution out there that I am missing
I have the eCommerce add-on and know I can add users to groups though it but there is no option to attach it to the subscription option in Paypal
-Thanks,
Cory
I can't get to the link for some reason I would love to try it - but every time I click on it, it sends me to a log-in screen after I am already logged in. I think its blocked because I don't see it when I search in the market-place
I really hoped the simple subscription would work but there was a fresh install bug I think. what happened was simple subscription rewrote my log-in page and when I tried to sign-in as admin it would tell me I didn't have a subscription and kicked me back to the log in with no dashboard. It seems like it works great for people who have had it (not trying to put down the add-on)
I was able to request a refund, I would try it again if the version number changed so i know it was attempted to be fixed.
I really hoped the simple subscription would work but there was a fresh install bug I think. what happened was simple subscription rewrote my log-in page and when I tried to sign-in as admin it would tell me I didn't have a subscription and kicked me back to the log in with no dashboard. It seems like it works great for people who have had it (not trying to put down the add-on)
I was able to request a refund, I would try it again if the version number changed so i know it was attempted to be fixed.
I think what you are seeing is an addon that has been removed or suspended from the marketplace. Only prb members can see its ghost.
I was wondering if that's what happened. Kind of funny they don't just remove the payment cart and let people know its suspended until fixed or something
Hello,
I worked with The simple subscription add-on for a client and it suffers from a few problems. 2 I can think of are:
1- If your users start the registrations process but decides to stop after getting to the paypal age and finish later, they will get stuck. They will be registered on your website but not activated and will not be able to log in or try to register again with the same email. You will have to delete them manually and ask them to try again
2- Nothing was set for automatic management of subscribers status. If after registration, a payment fails, say after a few months, it's totally up to you to deal with it manually. Users will not get unregistered or anything like that.
I just finished working on a subscription system for another website but it is not meant to work with the e-commerce add-on. It works on the same principle as simple subscriptions but is fully automated and offers more control. I also offer excellent support (check my add-ons on the market place)
If you'd like to know more you can pm me, I'll be happy to discuss it with you. alternatively if you're not in a hurry, you could wait a few months until I put it on the market place and buy it from there.
First option can get you a solution that would be more expensive but customized to your needs. Second one should be fine for most situations and cheaper.
I worked with The simple subscription add-on for a client and it suffers from a few problems. 2 I can think of are:
1- If your users start the registrations process but decides to stop after getting to the paypal age and finish later, they will get stuck. They will be registered on your website but not activated and will not be able to log in or try to register again with the same email. You will have to delete them manually and ask them to try again
2- Nothing was set for automatic management of subscribers status. If after registration, a payment fails, say after a few months, it's totally up to you to deal with it manually. Users will not get unregistered or anything like that.
I just finished working on a subscription system for another website but it is not meant to work with the e-commerce add-on. It works on the same principle as simple subscriptions but is fully automated and offers more control. I also offer excellent support (check my add-ons on the market place)
If you'd like to know more you can pm me, I'll be happy to discuss it with you. alternatively if you're not in a hurry, you could wait a few months until I put it on the market place and buy it from there.
First option can get you a solution that would be more expensive but customized to your needs. Second one should be fine for most situations and cheaper.
sounds like its worth waiting for!
I would love to have subscription based add on for concrete5 Please let me know when you have it available.
Hey Guys!! I'm looking into a subscription based website too however it looks like Simple Subscriptions isn't 5.5+ compatible (not helpful!) is there anything being worked on that could open this gateway up??
Thanks!
Thanks!
not that i know of. It's a surprisingly hard problem to solve right.
I met with these guys recently:
http://www.accumulus.com/
they seemed to have something that works as SaaS that they were interested
in integrating with concrete5 if the interest was there. You might consider
asking them.
best wishes
Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
I met with these guys recently:
http://www.accumulus.com/
they seemed to have something that works as SaaS that they were interested
in integrating with concrete5 if the interest was there. You might consider
asking them.
best wishes
Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
Thanks for the update! May not be a bad idea. Right now I'm not too worried
but when you're doing a Proposal you wanna make sure you can follow through
:O) Appreciate the quick response Franz!
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but when you're doing a Proposal you wanna make sure you can follow through
:O) Appreciate the quick response Franz!
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Roz Stovle-Murphy
Graphic Designer
Creative Orange Design
p. 403.467.9210 (CALGARY)
c. 415.717.1154 (SAN FRANCISCO)
w. creativeorangedesign.com
yeah best cheap solution is to use paypal's built in recurring payments and
then handle the "dones" (people who miss a payment for any reason) by hand.
That's very doable.
best wishes
Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
then handle the "dones" (people who miss a payment for any reason) by hand.
That's very doable.
best wishes
Franz Maruna
CEO - concrete5.org
http://about.me/frz
*don't buy/try simple subscriptions (it completely broke the log-in after installation of my test site)
so far there is no one size fits all membership thingy
lerteco-membership is the closest but doesn't use paypals requiring payments (its ok - has a nice management panel shows the admin time left and you can add time easily)
I've settled using the eCommerce from the concrete 5 team with timed groups- because i can add discount codes and stuff
*on the log-in page I use "magic data" to show the user time left for the group
I also have direct to paypal subscription button (for auto recurring monthly payments that Franz is talking about "the subscription button and price points are created in paypal") set-up the button to be hidden so the user has to log-in to continue. that way when someone buys it, they already have an account. the first payment must be accepted by you then you manually turn on there account forever and when you see that they have cancelled the payment you move them from the forever account to an account with a limited time to be turned off by the end of the month.
It's not the best but it works for now (If I wasn't using eCommerce for other different products i probably would stick to lertco-membership but i like having all the options of eCommerce so i spent the extra time to set it up
paypal has its own api to tell your cms who has access and who doesn't but im not a programmer so im no so sure how easy it is to connect the two. I think the process would be needing to add another database for the users to attach a paypal id that wouldn't be created until a user makes a purchase
so far there is no one size fits all membership thingy
lerteco-membership is the closest but doesn't use paypals requiring payments (its ok - has a nice management panel shows the admin time left and you can add time easily)
I've settled using the eCommerce from the concrete 5 team with timed groups- because i can add discount codes and stuff
*on the log-in page I use "magic data" to show the user time left for the group
I also have direct to paypal subscription button (for auto recurring monthly payments that Franz is talking about "the subscription button and price points are created in paypal") set-up the button to be hidden so the user has to log-in to continue. that way when someone buys it, they already have an account. the first payment must be accepted by you then you manually turn on there account forever and when you see that they have cancelled the payment you move them from the forever account to an account with a limited time to be turned off by the end of the month.
It's not the best but it works for now (If I wasn't using eCommerce for other different products i probably would stick to lertco-membership but i like having all the options of eCommerce so i spent the extra time to set it up
paypal has its own api to tell your cms who has access and who doesn't but im not a programmer so im no so sure how easy it is to connect the two. I think the process would be needing to add another database for the users to attach a paypal id that wouldn't be created until a user makes a purchase
Anyways, you shouldn't be locked out of your site. I have never had this experience with Simple Subscriptions. What message do you get when you try to login?
Alternatively, have you looked at this addon?
http://www.concrete5.org/marketplace/addons/i-belong-the-paid-membe...
It does the same thing as Simple Subscriptions, but the only difference is that it requires the eCommerce addon.