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Anyone seen this?
http://webflow.com/cms
It looks really interesting, although my biggest complaint about WebFlow has been its lack of support for mobile-first development. Anyway, I'm intrigued by the upcoming "data driven design" capabilities. I've requested beta access when it's available. I'm anxious to try it out.
-Steve
http://webflow.com/cms
It looks really interesting, although my biggest complaint about WebFlow has been its lack of support for mobile-first development. Anyway, I'm intrigued by the upcoming "data driven design" capabilities. I've requested beta access when it's available. I'm anxious to try it out.
-Steve
What I specifically don't like about these systems, is how polluted your HTML gets. Just look at this example
There are classes added to your elements EVERYWHERE. Headings (2), paragraphs etc. The code above could be like this:
Those other features look awesome by the way. There is also a lot of freedom though, which I don't know if I would be willing to hand that over to my client(s).
<div class="w-container"> <h2 class="w-editable heading--centered">Per-site hosting</h2> <p class="w-editable paragraph paragraph--large subheadcentered">Once your site's ready, pick a hosting plan to launch on your custom domain and enjoy 99.99% uptime and super-fast page loads thanks to our Tier 1 CDN.</p> </div>
There are classes added to your elements EVERYWHERE. Headings (2), paragraphs etc. The code above could be like this:
<div class="container extra-styling-selector"> <h2>Per-site hosting</h2> <p>Once your site's ready, pick a hosting plan to launch on your custom domain and enjoy 99.99% uptime and super-fast page loads thanks to our Tier 1 CDN.</p> </div>
Those other features look awesome by the way. There is also a lot of freedom though, which I don't know if I would be willing to hand that over to my client(s).
Yeah the markup that comes out of all of them is horrible, Squarespace is even worse, but a client who never looks at the code doesn't care at all, as long as they can figure out how to lay out a page easily and get online quickly.
I absolutely love the direction 5.7 is moving in and I love building sites with it. With each update it gets better and better.
I just found this old thread that actually sums up the debate/concerns I had really well:
https://www.concrete5.org/community/forums/chat/concrete5-vs.-wordpr...
I absolutely love the direction 5.7 is moving in and I love building sites with it. With each update it gets better and better.
I just found this old thread that actually sums up the debate/concerns I had really well:
https://www.concrete5.org/community/forums/chat/concrete5-vs.-wordpr...
Just received a link in my mail for webflow.com , looks interesting but think we already have most of the facilities in C5 using customize etc.
Also looks too confusing for clients to use.
Also looks too confusing for clients to use.
I totally agree and don't forget that it is also a subscription based product. Rock on C5!
I've added Webflow to the directory on my CMS info site (built with Concrete!).
http://www.cmsguide.info
With the hundreds of CMSs out there, Concrete wins above them all. It's the most well thought-out CMS, including the code it puts out.
http://www.cmsguide.info
With the hundreds of CMSs out there, Concrete wins above them all. It's the most well thought-out CMS, including the code it puts out.
Looks pretty amazing I've gotta admit. I'd love to know how much the Concrete5 team look at the functionality of these online web builders, Squarepace, Webflow et al..
They all have their good points and bad and Concrete5 was always leaps ahead because of inline editing but so many of these competitive services have such great integration with other social and Saas platforms and blocks available for most things...
It must be hard to decide how to position C5 amongst all this and which features to focus on to keep competitive.