Can I hide the toolbar from a user group?

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I am in the planning stages of building pages that will be behind the login. These pages will be for customers, so I do not want them to have any edit access to any pages, only view access to protected pages. I created the user group and created a test user assigned to this group and everything is working as expected.

The problem is, the users in this group see the toolbar with the "Add Page" button and Concrete5 logo. That's not a good experience for my purposes.

Does anyone have an idea on how to hide the toolbar from users in this group?

Alternatively, is there a better way to manage serving password-protected pages to users that accomplishes my goal?

Thanks!

 
adajad replied on at Permalink Reply
adajad
If you only set view permissions on the page (and make the subpages inherit permissions) for your user group it should be as desired.
admin replied on at Permalink Reply 1 Attachment
Thanks for the response, adajad. That certainly seems logical, but (unfortunately) it doesn't work in my case.

I created a user group (let's call it "Customers") then created a user in that group (let's call him "bob"). I went to the page in question and assigned "Read" permissions (and no others) to the user group "Customers". When I log in as "bob" I see the toolbar with the "Add Page", "Help", and "Log Out" buttons. Since all I want to do is show pages to this user group (not allow any editing capabilities) this is not a good result. It also looks like garbage on a mobile device.

What I want is a way for certain groups to be able to login, logout, and manage their profile without seeing the toolbar.
adajad replied on at Permalink Reply 1 Attachment
adajad
That is strange...

I have tested it now but can't replicate your problem.

I have a User Group (Symbicort) and a several users added to that group. Some pages can only be viewed by users in that group but I get no Add page or even the top bar when signed in.

Attached are my User Group permissions for the top level page for that User Group.
admin replied on at Permalink Reply 1 Attachment
Additionally, when I click "Add Page" when logged in as this user, the button spins indefinitely (see attachment - it's been spinning for almost a half hour so far).
jordanlev replied on at Permalink Reply
jordanlev
Try going to Dashboard -> Sitewide Settings -> Access. Is the checkbox checked next to the "Customers" group under the "Edit Access" section?
admin replied on at Permalink Reply 1 Attachment
Jordanlev: I have advanced permissions enabled so that fix doesn't apply to me, correct?

adajad: My permissions are set exactly as shown in your screenshot (see my attached - highlighted group is the one I'm having trouble with).

I don't remember the timing for creating the pages and groups (which came first). Is there any need to re-apply or refresh, or whatever permissions?

I tried creating a new page and a new group to see if there was a problem with the original pages or groups, but I get the same result, so it doesn't seem like a problem with either the pages or the groups.

I'm not a developer and am also new to Concrete5 so I don't even know what questions to ask.
Steevb replied on at Permalink Reply
Steevb
I don't give any permissions, so all they get is a profile page.
admin replied on at Permalink Reply
Sorry, 55webdesign, but I don't understand your comment or how it relates to the issue of hiding the toolbar. Can you explain a bit more?
Steevb replied on at Permalink Reply
Steevb
I don't know if this is what your after:

I add user, place in group.

Nothing else, I don't set page or access permissions.

they can see the site, see other members and their profile page.

They can't see top bar.

Does that help?

Steev
admin replied on at Permalink Reply
How does that help me password protect my pages?
admin replied on at Permalink Reply
Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I should start to troubleshoot this?
mkly replied on at Permalink Reply
mkly
Can you post a screenshot of your permissions for the page in question?

It will help with troubleshooting with this quite a bit.

EDIT: Oops i missed it nvmd.
mkly replied on at Permalink Reply
mkly
Just to check.

Permissions in concrete5 are "additive". Meaning that if the user is in any of these groups as well
-Administrators
-Publisher
-Contributer
-Reviewers

Then they will be able to edit regardless of whether or not they are in the LYNXeon Wildcat group.
admin replied on at Permalink Reply
Thanks mkly. I think I knew that (though I probably forgot, so thanks for the reminder). For testing, I created a new user and the only group that user is in is the LYNXeon Wildcat group.
mkly replied on at Permalink Reply
mkly
Is it a top level page?

If not what are the permissions of the page above it?
admin replied on at Permalink Reply 4 Attachments
It is not a top level page. I am having problems with several pages, all at least on level below the top level (see attached site-map.png). The highlighted pages are the ones I'm having trouble with.

The "LYNXeon Wildcat" page has manual permissions with Guest and Registered User access removed (see attached permissions-wildcat.png). The child pages of "LYNXeon Wildcat" have permissions set "By Area of Site" (see attached permissions-wildcat-child.png).

All non-highlighted pages inherit permissions from the Home page (see attached permissions-home.png). Eventually, all pages except the one with the red arrow will inherit permissions from "Home". I am currently in staging mode preparing for launch.

Sorry for the ramble, but I figure more info is better. :)
Steevb replied on at Permalink Reply 4 Attachments
Steevb
As I said, don't set any permissions from admin. See attatched

New page 'Customers', see attached.

New pages beneath 'Costomer One' and 'Customer Two'.

'Customer One' permissions set to NO guest and read only. See attached

'Customer Two permissions set the same, but in reverse. See attached


Does that help?

Steev
admin replied on at Permalink Reply 2 Attachments
Thanks 55webdesign. Those permissions seem to be exactly what I have. I don't know what you mean by "don't set any permissions from admin". Is that the problem? If so, can explain what you mean? My permissions look exactly like your screen shots.

I removed Guest access and added only "Read" access for my LYNXeon Wildcat group (see attached permissions-minimal.png).

Page access works fine. A member of the LYNXeon Wildcat group can access the page. The problem is that they still see the top toolbar with the Add Page button (see attached page-with-toolbar.png), which they should not since they don't have any edit capabilities.

Thanks for all your help!
Steevb replied on at Permalink Reply
Steevb
As admin I add a user, but don't user to permissions.

See my first image in last post.
admin replied on at Permalink Reply
Thanks. The whole point of what I'm trying to do, though, is restrict a page so that only specific groups can see it while Guests cannot. My problem is that READ ONLY groups are shown the toolbar, which shouldn't happen.
Steevb replied on at Permalink Reply
Steevb
OK,
I've just tried it again with a fresh set up.

Same result, no one see's edit bar and the right user see's only their own specific page/pages.

Maybe another option, is any javascript interfering?

You have quite a bit and a lot of people CANT see the edit bar because of javascript!

I'm at a loss now, I can't replicate your problem.

Maybe a C5 God will step in to help you.

Good luck