Suitable IDE for Concrete5
I use a combination of zend studio IDE for eclipse version 6.1 with the zend debugger installed on a wamp installation (windows apache mysql and php, and maybe python?) for local testing.
For regex, which I am working on, I run that in zend since it debugs instantly. I am sure there are more trivial and easier ways to run this, in fact I know you can debug php right in etexteditor, but I don't have the desire or interest in getting that working.
Coda seems to have a nice solution for $100, osx only.
Instead of the one tool, visual studio, I have to use a few different ones.
Again I am not debugging in the ide the entire concrete5 install, I haven't taken the time to set that up. I am sure it is entirely possible. Maybe dreamweaver cs4 would fit the bill? I personally haven't tried it.
I test on an essentially live(local) server that mirrors mediatemple's setup. Publish there when I am done.
I really don't know what else to say, although I hope others chime in with their methods.
That being said, I am not going to try to convince you that concrete5 is right for you, but there are a ton of guys that are getting work done on concrete5, myself included.
I would like to hear from frz on their setup and how they are running things, workflow etc since they are the experts on it.
The zend studio FWIW does pick up a bunch of variables and the intellisense is there. That is what I recommend, notepad++ for little fixes where you don't want to boot up the monster IDE>
Again i guess it is whatever you can live with.
Then again I am a big fan of C# 3.0 for the LINQ alone and the .net framework gives you a TON of controls ajax ready and all of that. So yeah I can appreciate both :)
uhh.. this isn't a huge issue for us to be honest. We use subversion to bring code together, and that takes time but works.
What people do on on their own machines is as much a matter of personal preference as it is anything else. I think Andrew uses BBEdit.. textWrangler that kinda simple stuff. Tony might use eclipse, or Zend not sure..
I think these IDE's certainly have a place in getting stuff done quickly if you know them already. I also think its quite unlikely that any modern website you build is going to validate perfectly to any type of validation tool. I mean, if you abandon anything that uses JQuery because your IDE trips on it's syntax - you've just eliminated an awful lot of very good lookin, perfectly functioning tools.
By no means am I arguing for writing sloppy code, and I think you'll find that things are all OOP and nicely formatted in concrete5.. I guess I'm just saying, that's because smart people took the time to do it. The web is a dirty conglomeration of languages that are being asked to do things they were never intended to do, on platforms that can't be predicted. I believe in shooting for "works" over "validates."
Microsoft's in ability to give you a environment that isn't constantly changing, as you point out, and their tendency to make stuff that only works on their browser, might make one wonder if the bar is perhaps being set too high?
Of course, these are all sweeping philosophical statements from someone who's last HTML chop was tables based and 10 years ago. ;) Take em with a grain of salt, and use whatever CMS makes you happy.
Regarding multi-site... what are you talking about? A centralized core and just what you need to run virtual sites in each virtual directory? This is done already. Since its more of an approach than a switch to flip, there's a whitepaper our hosting partners get that explains how we do it.
The fix turned out to be installing JSEclipse as detailed here:http://jamesporter.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/eclipse-pdt-and-jseclip...
I can now get on with investigating Concrete5 and hopefully enjoy the ride this time:)
Thanks for all your comments.
I'm running same config like Scott.
Dev is Eclipse with some other stuff i need for Qt. For quick edits i prefer also to use notepad++.
Testing i do with ff3, firebug, dom inspector and the webdeveloper plugin from moz.
Have fun with Eclipse.