Installed Concrete but cant get past install screen

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I installed php and mysql on my win2003 is6 server, php and mysql works fine, but when i fill out the first page, i get a blank page as nothing happened, and when i go back still get the setup screen.
Url:http://kayla.dreamspin.com

Thanks in advance.

Frank

wizardontherun
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Remo replied on at Permalink
Remo
is there a file site.php in the folder directory? is it writable?

are there any tables created by the c5 installer?
wizardontherun replied on at Permalink
wizardontherun
I do not have a site.php, the root folder just has an index.php. I installed by unzip to the folder and configured IIS to allow php which seems to be working fine. My database is mysql i also have mssql2005 express running on the same server
Remo replied on at Permalink
Remo
I meant: Is there a file called "site.php" in the config folder?

Can you post a link to a phpinfo page?
damery replied on at Permalink
damery
I am experiencing the same thing. I have a blank screen with database that has 59 tables.
damery replied on at Permalink
damery
I have tried a variety of "frameworks", CMS's and platforms and other than WordPress, CodeIgniter and ModxCms they all have horrible sucky installs. I really was hoping this was different. I really wanted it to work, but this is going down the drain like Joomla.
Please have a working install and your fan base will increase 200%.
jgarcia replied on at Permalink
jgarcia
I'm pretty sure C5 does not work with IIS as of yet, because it requires the Apache rewrite module. There are various rewrite modules available for IIS but I'm not sure if they're compatible.
Remo replied on at Permalink
Remo
that's not correct, you don't need mod_rewrite!
you can use it if you have it but it's not a must.

and beside that - there's isapi rewrite which basically does the same!
frz replied on at Permalink
frz
Damery,

I sense your frustration and of course I'd love it if everyone had a seamless install experience.

We're working awfully hard on it (for nothing incidentally) but there are an awful lot of unique system setups out there. In all honesty, I can't imagine it will ever go perfectly for everyone - there's just too many wildcards and permutations.

While I deeply regret you're having a hard time getting c5 up on your unique box, I know thousands of others have been able to pull it off with no difficulty at all. We have to choose how to balance our time. On the one hand, a install script that sniffs the millions of system configuration possibilities, points out what is incorrect about your particular environment, auto-corrects it, and makes everything hunky-dory SOUNDS great, I am dubious anyone could build such a thing. From your complaints about 'everything out-there' I wonder if perhaps I'm right to be dubious.

As the CEO, it's my job to set priorities. There are any number of important features that the passionate and growing developer base (that is able to install c5) is clamoring for. Obviously, with a small team working on free software - it's all about choice.

All of that being said, if you were to post a call to phpInfo() on your server and link to it here (as requested) I bet some of the volunteers who have been generously helping folks such as yourself would poke around to see what was off.

-frz
ceo, c5
damery replied on at Permalink
damery
Hello Frz,
The link is
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg9fgbv8_238hfgzdghv...
I am testing this on a Laptop with Vista OS and running WAMPserver 2.0 using Apache 2.2.8
and php 5.2.6. and MySql 5.0.51b
From your install instructions I meet and exceed the requirements. However I am unable to get this to install properly. If you are unable to help me I understand, but I will be sorely disappointed and will go back to what works for me.
Thanks in advance.
aaragon replied on at Permalink
There is no site.php file in that directory, i even tried making one that's blank and putting it in there and making it writable. Can someone upload an example of that file is supposed to look like?

thanks

adam
dancobb replied on at Permalink
dancobb
Just as an FYI Windows is not natively supported so installation issues should be expected.

I have gotten it to work on IIS7/Win2008 with MySQL (Note this was a demo site that I do not use for production). I attempted some database portability to MSSQL but its turning into a larger project then I expected.

Due to the ease that IIS7 handles PHP and URL Rewriting I recommend that if you are going to run on Windows do it on IIS7.
wizardontherun replied on at Permalink
wizardontherun
http://kayla.dreamspin.com/fap.php

running iis6 windows 2003 latest ver 5 of mysql

trying to install in the root folder c:/sites/kayla

unzipped concret5 only have a index.php no tables are created in sql. after submit index.php, just goes to blank screen, no errors or messages?

any pointers?
Remo replied on at Permalink
Remo
do you log the errors to a file?

usually, not all the errors are shown in the browser but they're logged somewhere..

I just installed c5 on iis6/win2k3/mysql5 without a single problem. I had to set a couple of directory permissions but that's it..

Would be nice to have a few public windows server ;-) It's difficult to find a problem if you can't reproduce it!
wizardontherun replied on at Permalink
wizardontherun
i can setup access to this server to testing if you would like, most of what i do is c#asp.net stuff, havnt played with php in a while. contact me direct [email protected] if you would like access to the server.

Frank

I would like to see this product from the post sounds great
andrew replied on at Permalink
andrew
but wanted to post publicly for anyone reading this - that it doesn't look like mysql is enabled on that server. That might lead to issues. ;-)

We will explicitly check for this on the next C5 version.
Remo replied on at Permalink
Remo
hey guys, can you check whether short_open_tag is set to "On" in your configuration?

I can't access kayla.dre.... right now?
wizardontherun replied on at Permalink
wizardontherun
short open tag is "ON"
wizardontherun replied on at Permalink
wizardontherun
any info on what to uncomment or insert to allow php and mysql on windows would be helpfull..
FIBER replied on at Permalink
FIBER
Damery,

I can't help but to think you just lack the skill to setup a good server.
The other software you mentioned are great peaces of software art, just like Concrete.

Given the fact that milions of installs of the software you mentioned and thousands of Concrete installs which did not provide problems, i am pretty sure you should find the cause in your own server setup. Or you are just better then all other developers out there.

Some positive critisism might be that you use the wrong setup for windows. U mentioned u use Wamp... try using XAMPP in stead. I got a recent build of that, on my [crappy] vista [bleh] laptop and done several clean concrete installs without problems.

To wrap this up, i realy want to thank -frz and his gang for all the great work they did on this CMS and making it open source. A truly great addition to the OS CMS world. Even at the state it is now... c'mon it will get better, it will kick ass!!

Greetz,
FiBER
COO, Insiders Online [www.insiders.nl]
damery replied on at Permalink
damery
Hello Fiber,
I did not try this software and post on this forum, to take jabs about my "lack" of server set up skills. I must have missed that in the requirements.
You have only offered a suggestion to install XAMPP, not much help, but what do I know, I "lack" server skills.
As I mentioned earlier, I give a fair chance to various open source applications in hopes of promoting them with the small but variable group of clients I work for.
As COO, I would have expected a little more understanding from you of the problem, but you have helped me make my choice, C5 and its leadership are not ready to install, or assist in forums, with ease, but they are quick with evaluating the "lack" of server knowledge.
Thanks
frz replied on at Permalink
frz
Damery,

The fact of the matter is you're not being fair. There is plenty of help going on in the install forums, both from c5 employees and volunteers who are chipping in every day. While I recognize the challenge, the fact that you're so eager to write us and our efforts off so quickly makes me think you'll probably be frustrated by the app once you do get it installed.

good luck finding someone/thing that fills your needs. I hear sharepoint's pretty good.
damery replied on at Permalink
damery
Again, I expected more from you, Frz I want to believe there is a source of answers here.
Like I tried to say "I really wanted to appreciate the application you have developed", but I am just not finding the "helpful" forum I expected. True, I came out of the gate with little to no patience but in the current open source market you don't last long if your customers cant get past page one.
I will consider this my sign off,
I am sure by your comments I am the one in a million with these problems, so be glad I am not coming back.
FIBER replied on at Permalink
FIBER
Damery,

Mate you are kinda strange. I totally stand behind the product and we are using it in our company to setup our production server.

About the XAMPP not being helpful, that's ok..i's just a way to fix your problems.

One last remark on my side, if you look around the forums on the help section and on the bountie section you will see there is a lot of community and dev input on the windows matters.
The devs are even willing to give out cash for people to write additions to make it install in enviroments most other OS CMS do not operate. Willingness enough i think :)

I truly feel sorry for the way you feel, but obviously you are looking for a product that has gone through it's phases of development. Don't forget Concrete has only just entered the OS CMS market.
Please stop by in a few months and it will be bigger.

And as a fellow COO i DO understand your frustration, for i went through the same selection period. But don't take it out on people busting their ass of and investing a lot of their own to make this work. Go look for a commercial product where you have the rights to say all of this.

Greezt.
FiBER

Hope you read this
frz replied on at Permalink
frz
Well, we've officially had our first flame war.. pretty calm all things told, but that's more than enough now.

This guy admitted that he showed up with a bad attitude. Well he got the same thing in return. I think it's clear to any casual visitor that this one was simply not meant to be from the get go. It's never wise to show up telling people what they /should/ do when you're asking for help. I've posted a new README message to the top of the installation forum, which hopefully should help set expectations a bit for the next person.

In the meantime, lets please let this die and get back to spending our time helping people. We've got some cool software here, but a long road ahead of us. Too much time has been spent on this. It's time to move on.

I've closed this thread, if anyone was still getting help out of it, they should start a new discussion and I'm sure the volunteers and staff will chirp right up.

-frz
ceo, c5