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Hello there. I am really enjoying building my site with Fundamental. It's certainly a very powerful and customizable theme. Just a thought I would like to pass on.

When I run a speed test on my site, I have found that it sometimes takes up to three seconds for the server to serve foundation.custom.css, which is a 226 kb file. I suppose I am asking too much to hope that a future version of Fundamental may offer a stripped-down version. (And might the same apply to foundation.css?) I am presuming that many of the rules in that file are not really needed to make Fundamental display properly. Or am I talking through my hat here? I don't know that much about css.
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Dushka
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c5hub replied on at Permalink Reply
c5hub
As from version 3.0.2 the foundation.css file was minified to reduce page load. All of the styles in that file are required as the theme along with the blocks, use them all in one way or an other.

In terms of page speed, we have found the theme to be pretty quick. For example if you check out our california starting point herehttps://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=http%3A%... you will see that it more than satisfies Googles requirements. It is worth noting that page speed is not solely dependent on themes, there are many other factors that effect this; server, internet connection, browser, site content etc etc.
Dushka replied on at Permalink Reply
Dushka
Many thanks. That's good news about the minification.

I was wondering if all the styles were actually used in the theme, as there are so many. And I read somewhere recently (I think I did — have read so much material that I could be getting muddled) that many sites only use about 40% of their css "potential".

I'm a satisfied Fundamental customer. I appreciate the constant focus on improving it. Keep up the great work.
c5hub replied on at Permalink Reply
c5hub
For every person whom only uses 40% there may be someone who uses 50%, 60% etc. If only 1 user wishes to use all of the CSS, then we need to make it available. We build sites using this theme and utilise most of the styles in some cases. We have a block available for almost all of the functionality available in Foundation.

We are always trying to improve our products and speeding them up is always a bonus, we need to balance this with also giving the most flexibility possible.

Cheers

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