What is the point of this plug in?
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I am struggling with the concept behind this plug in. I understand that it allows you to show posts or snippets of posts on your C5 website but what else does it do? This is not clear to me from looking through the forum or reading the description of this plug in.
From what I can see you cannot do the following:-
- write and edit posts.
- automate the creation of a post on the C5 website ie each time you write a post in Wordpress, a new page is created on your C5 website showing that post.
- extending this further can you display categories and tags and again if a new category or tag is created when you write a new post will a page be created in C5 for this.
There is a whole raft of functionality in Wordpress which make it a great blogging tool, but from what I can tell this plug is little more than a glorified RSS feed displayer?
Please correct me if I am wrong, because I would definitely like to use it but I cannot get my head round why I would.
I do not mean to be disparaging about the plug in because I have not tried it and I am sure a lot of effort was put into creating it. I am sure it also has value in terms of being able to neatly display posts (or parts of). However it just seems like extra effort for little gain to me.
From what I can see you cannot do the following:-
- write and edit posts.
- automate the creation of a post on the C5 website ie each time you write a post in Wordpress, a new page is created on your C5 website showing that post.
- extending this further can you display categories and tags and again if a new category or tag is created when you write a new post will a page be created in C5 for this.
There is a whole raft of functionality in Wordpress which make it a great blogging tool, but from what I can tell this plug is little more than a glorified RSS feed displayer?
Please correct me if I am wrong, because I would definitely like to use it but I cannot get my head round why I would.
I do not mean to be disparaging about the plug in because I have not tried it and I am sure a lot of effort was put into creating it. I am sure it also has value in terms of being able to neatly display posts (or parts of). However it just seems like extra effort for little gain to me.
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Hi Elyon,
Thank you for a comprehensive reply.
However how much extra effort would it be to add the ability to create/edit/delete a Wordpress post in Concrete5?
The reason I ask is that if you added this piece of functionality you would have a much more attractive add on for me to buy.
I could then build a site in C5, install Wordpress configure it and set it up and then I only need to show my end users one system.
Obviously there are the comments (which get full of spam so ar generally I remove them) and some other admin that needs doing, which I can do, but I can hand over a single comprehensive end user system then?
As it stands I am using Pro Blog instead for this very reason; however I would prefer to use Wordpress due to its better SEO features (IMHO).
Thanks,
Edwin.
Thank you for a comprehensive reply.
However how much extra effort would it be to add the ability to create/edit/delete a Wordpress post in Concrete5?
The reason I ask is that if you added this piece of functionality you would have a much more attractive add on for me to buy.
I could then build a site in C5, install Wordpress configure it and set it up and then I only need to show my end users one system.
Obviously there are the comments (which get full of spam so ar generally I remove them) and some other admin that needs doing, which I can do, but I can hand over a single comprehensive end user system then?
As it stands I am using Pro Blog instead for this very reason; however I would prefer to use Wordpress due to its better SEO features (IMHO).
Thanks,
Edwin.
When I decided to start blogging again, I had a difficult time deciding how it would be done.
I have had very bad experiences working for clients who tried to turn WordPress into a larger CMS platform for a whole website and not only a blog. Although I enjoyed all of the blogging features that come in WordPress, I did not really enjoy theming for WordPress, and designing entire websites around a blog seemed like letting the tail wag the dog.
However, the options that were in Concrete consisted largely of blogging by creating pages and editing blocks -- not what I wanted. They also did not support features like remote blogging by email, remote blogging from applications like Windows Live Writer, or the WordPress applications for iOS, webOS and other platforms. I have also enjoyed the variety of blog-related plugins that are available to WordPress. Cross-posting to Twitter, Facebook or any other feature I would want would probably be supported.
If you decide to create a WordPress blog, you normally would have to create a separate theme to try and match it to your Concrete site, unless (of course) you turn your entire site into WordPress. Not what I wanted. What this add-on enables is deep integration -- from a user perspective, there's no concept that you've left Concrete at all. You can use the same theme, and the blog can be bundled inside of a block you can add or remove at will, instead of being deeply rooted as a WordPress install.
Before I created the add-on, I thought about RSS, but that only enables you (usually) to display the last 10 posts, and to only display excerpts. You still need to redirect traffic to the WordPress blog in order to display the full posts as well as to allow commenting, and so on.
This add-on uses AJAX by default, or cURL by choice, in order to pull down information from WordPress and display within Concrete. Since WordPress is the backend, the URLs, categories, tags and other information are instantly available in Concrete. You make a new blog post in WordPress, the URL already exists in Concrete. You change a category? There's no delay. All the data comes straight from WordPress.
You can check out my blog athttp://www.joshuagranick.com/blog... or I also write athttp://www.haxenme.org/blog as well. It is easy to customize the layout of the blog posts, so I know people who have gotten much more creative about the presentation of the content, but seeing it working should help give you an idea of what this is about.
You can search, browse by tag, category, date, comment ... you effectively have a full working WordPress-backed blog embedded into Concrete, using your Concrete styles, and blending in completely.